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The Lie of The Four Hour Work Week

LiesThe promise of a four hour workweek magically righting all wrongs in your life, is a lie. Not only is it highly implausible, but if you ever do achieve a four hour work week, you’ll probably want to get rid of it.

Why is the Four Hour Workweek (4HWW for short) a lie? Well, there’s two reasons. Number one, it’s come to the attention of quite a few people that Tim Ferriss really defines “work” as something you don’t want to do. Mandatory, unpleasant, tedious, repetitive tasks that you’d rather defer or delegate to someone else. This is quite a narrow definition of work. I would be more inclined to say Tim’s definition of work is more synonymous with a chore.

So that’s the first reason. The second reason is this… The definition most people have of work is totally disempowering. It’s more in line with slavery, toiling and punishment. Work is seen as something you have to do to pay your dues. How many times did you hear your mom or dad say as a kid “I worked hard to buy/make/microwave this food and you better eat it!” We’re brought up with our parents making us think that work is some kind of grueling sacrifice they’ve done to “give us a better life.” (The intended message may have been to instill respect for hard work, but usually the outcome is feeling guilty for being born.)

Since work is seen as such a must — something we must do to pay the bills and to survive — we don’t realize that it’s not required that we see work as something other than a chore. Just because we’re born with a bad definition of something doesn’t mean we have to keep it. Work is more than just a chore, at least to me.

Work is sacred.

Work is giving yourself. It’s creative self-expression. It’s opening your heart and providing value to others. It’s exchanging a part of yourself with someone else. It’s a possibility for you to make a difference in the world.

Seeing work as just something to do to get by is like slapping yourself in the face.

Here’s why I just can’t slap myself anymore:

  • I don’t want to spend one third of my life living out of a sense of drudgery.
  • I don’t want to rent out my body and mind for five of seven days of the week.
  • I don’t want to spend every day counting down the minutes to lunch, then counting again to five o’clock.
  • But much, much, much more than that, I don’t want to confine myself to choosing work that isn’t meaningful and doesn’t matter to me.

And that’s really the biggest problem with seeing work as menial labor. By defining work as such, you incarcerate yourself in a narrow field of possibilities of what work could be. Yes, work can be tedious. Doing your taxes, filing receipts, stapling, responding to email, and doing repetitive tasks can be pretty damn boring. There’s no way to trick yourself into believing otherwise. (Non-resistance to the tedium, however, can make it a lot less painful.) But despite the tedium, work can be much more than that. The work you do can be the gift of what you leave behind on this earth when you’re gone. It can be the difference you make in other peoples lives.

Something different.

When you expand your definition of what work is to a mutually beneficial exchange of value, it becomes more of a blessing and an opportunity.

This is the way I’ve started to think about work; I ask myself, “With the work you do today, how can you create the biggest positive impact in other people’s lives, while fulfilling your own dreams at the same time?”

And if I have work to do that is truly boring (like figuring out how much taxes I owe) I ask myself, “I know this work isn’t what I’d absolutely love to do, but since it must be done, by not resisting it, can I make it less painful?”

I also have to be careful to distinguish between work that must be done (like taxes) and things that seem required, but really aren’t. For example, it might be a good idea for me to spend some time every day networking, but if it doesn’t feel authentic, it would be a waste of time. If I really felt like creating, rather than connecting, I should honor that feeling. When I express myself authentically, I naturally have a greater impact then when I force myself to do something because I think it would be a good idea.

When you start to see work as play, as giving yourself to the world, as being an agent of change, you completely shatter the perception of work as a burden.

Because that’s where all this seeking to escape from work comes from (which is really what the 4HWW is about). Whether it be counting down the days to your yearly two week vacation, setting up a four hour workweek or creating passive income; whether it be the desire to retire early, win the lottery or strike it rich, it’s all in the effort to escape from the obligation of spending your life in a state of endless resistance to doing chores. It’s like we’re six years old again, fighting with mom about cleaning up all the stuff we’ve crammed under our bed. Not much has changed, huh?

But when work becomes something reverent to you, you no longer to seek escape from it. Besides, imagine if you really did find that elusive escape. Would it really solve all your problems? Sure, you’d have a lot of free time, but is that really what you’re looking for? Just free time?

I think it’s something more than that. I think it’s the lack of purpose, the lack of depth in our work that leads us to chase ideas like a four hour workweek and autopilot income.

Guess what?

No amount of freedom of time will quench your desire to make a difference, to live with purpose.

As Rolf Potts represents in his awesome book, Vagabonding, you can only live so long sipping martinis on a beach. Sooner or later, you’ll be bored. You’ll want to actually do something that matters.

Despite all the head-drilling society does to make you think work equates slavery, there are many possibilities for work to be a joy.

One of those options is The Zero Hour Workweeka guide to getting paid to be who you are.

(Note: I did learn a lot from The Four Hour Workweek. I think Tim has some great ideas, like mini retirements, following a low information diet, etc. I also think he did an awesome job pointing out the stupidity of “work for work’s sake.” However, I do think the central idea of the achievement of a four hour workweek solving all of your problems is misleading. Tim defines work as something you really despise, and I just think that’s confusing things more, rather than bringing clarity to the situation. I guess it’s all about semantics, though, right? As Clinton said during the Monica Lewinski case, “Please define sexual relations.”)

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tedoymisojos 5 pts

If you ask me the ONLY thing I want is free time, my answer is YES. HELL YES. Then I have the FREEDOM to do whatever the hell I want with that time, as opposed to HAVING to go to work every single day, for at least 8 hours, getting out of work so tired that you only want to hit the sack, for the next day to start that all over again - OR ELSE, I dont eat. - Hell to the yes I want free time. This article felt like a slap to the face.

wieser_d 5 pts

I totally agree...and while talking to others who had achieved some "muses" which make "40.000 per month", I finally get an impression of the whole system.You know, Tim is right: He doesn't have to work anymore. He has enough. Why? Because everyone is buyin his books (or through amazon affiliate links).

You see: The whole system is "chasing a dream", and the reader will always chase that dream.

But you make only money, to "sell that dream" to others.

So just create any product, say: "I've done it! Finally! Check out my ebook! (or book) Find it out know, the real success strategies!" - Tim wil promote these "muses" on his web, and someone will finally buy them...The strategies Tim offers only work in theory, as you have to do a lot more, than sell your "muse" and get rich. However, I would recommend the following book: http://amzn.to/ue3iXX

It's not mine btw, lol xD.

theAndrewSawyer 5 pts

I'm new here, and I know this is an old post but I had to comment. I'm glad I found this! It put some things into perspective for me as I go down the road to becoming location independent myself, and helped me get real with my own expectations and reasons for it all.

Cheers

momekh 5 pts

I have a question, if I may: IF you have rightly pointed out the inherent fault in the title of the book the 4HWW then why are you towing the line by giving out a 'zero hour workweek' ebook? :/

I understand that it works. In fact, Tim Ferris himself tells us that he tested the title (using Adwords) to see which one was more appealing (the title before The FourHourWorkWeek was Drug Dealing For Fun & Profit or something). It works to get people 'interested', and using it to get a point accross is understandable, and sometimes even acceptable. But the problem with the4HWW is that it doesn't clearly spell out the definition of work as taken by Mr Ferris.

Just a question; if you don't agree with it, then why use it?

(I do like your writing and am subscribing to your blog! :) )

Interesting perspective! I'm going to have to check out the Zero Hour Work Week ASAP!

You guys love your jobs so much they arent really jobs GOOD FOR YOU. Now for real if you didnt enjoy your four hour work week because you got bored--how come you didnt enjoy your job so much you had to go get paid for it? Get real. You guys lack creativity to truly live so you put this idea down. You deserve to work and be in the bubble, what perfect slaves.

Wow! what a powerful post and great responses. I think the books has great ideas, and one could use the 4hww to do what their passion is...even if it is work, like volunteer work, writing etc. Im not done with the book yet, however I feel I will learn some great techniques.

Thanks again

Amber Jones

I have to admit, I'm a fan of the 4HWW. In later chapters, Tim addresses the "dilemma" of having an excess of free time. He talks about doing other things in life that matter.

Honestly, I have never thought work as "mutually beneficial exchange of value" or "creative self-expression." It's a total paradigm shift, for sure.

"Work" and "job" in our culture are linked. We all know that boring, meaningless jobs suck. But work can be a good thing.

"Tim defines work as something you really despise"

Tim defines work as something you wouldn't do if you wouldn't be paid for it.

Granted, you may love your work, but if your employer stopped paying your salary, would you do it for free?

To the genius who wrote "The Lie of the Four Hour Work Week"

Did you even read the entire book, or did you just glance at the front and back cover? You are misinterpreting the entire crux of the book. The whole point is not to become entirely devoid of responsibilities that you deteriorate from boredom. The point is to NOT spend 20-30 years working in a 9-5 so that one day you can retire and supposedly live the good life. Having time and freedom means you can live your dreams and fantasies in the NOW, whether it's moving to Barcelona for 8 months to finally become fluent in Spanish, or get certified in scuba diving and spending 3 months diving at the world's best sites. Who in their right mind would want a meaningless life with complete freedom and nothing purposeful to do? The point is that many people indefinitely postpone what they really desire to do because they trap themselves in the illusion of "If I can only make X amount of money I'll be able to retire and finally live my dreams." Good luck doing that with the standard 2 week vacations US firms tolerate each year. I know work can be incredibly rewarding, I am not knocking that. Everyone wants to feel that they can make a difference and that their life has a purpose in the world; without purpose human beings cannot survive. I think the point of the book is that if you can develop a self-sustaining lifestyle where you can live comfortably and have freedom of time - you can REALLY make your life the one you have always wanted. Whether it is making a difference by volunteering to plant trees in Israel to stop desertification or joining the peace corps. The reality is that unless that is your profession, most jobs will never allow you to be able to do this kind of work.

I think the point of the four hour work week was lost on some of you. It's not about not doing thing it's about doing what you want to do and not have to do. The freedom, to do this lost art they call manual thinking. Now for some of us happiness is doing what you're told to do, you know letting someone else tell you you're worth and what you'll be doing with your most precious resources. Expand your mind and your abilities, choices and ultimately your world will expand with it.

Thanks for posting this; it's not far from some of the thoughts I had regarding the book.

I'm a little dumbfounded when people equate the title of Tim Ferris' book The Four Hour Work Week with its' content. To be clear, he employed an A/B split testing approach for choosing his title. I would say intellectual people should judge a book by its content and not by the cover or the title :)

The Four Hour Work Week is an idea that your life could be what you dream it to be. Plus his book is full of practical tips on many business and personal affairs.

TIM FERRIS IS BRILLIANT!

"No amount of freedom of time will quench your desire to make a difference, to live with purpose."

This is brilliant Jonathan - I remember working with a coach a number of years back who advocated the 4HWW in quite a big way. My question always was - well what the heck will I DO when I have all the free time in the world.

Perfect, thanks!

Kate

Hi Jonathan,

Some interesting points have been written here. I agree that unfortunately "work" is seen as a negative activity in our society and for some people, work is the very thing they look forward to each day. Where their social friendships are form, where they get to make a valid contribution and difference to our world.

However, the four hour work week isn't talking about this latter idea of work...it is referring to the masses of people that wake up every day to the irritating sound of an alarm, gulp down a few espresso before entering a job they hate, only so they can receive the money to pay for the mortgage/rent, holiday, food, their children's higher education etc. The four hour work week is for the masses of people that would like to automate the way they receive money. Not the other half, that would probably still go to work every day even if they weren't getting paid for! It refers to automating and minimising the time spent on making "money", so that you do things that you enjoy and not just do things for the money. If that consists of sitting on the beach all day, then so be it! However it could quite easily consist of working with orphans in south africa. Note that I used the word "working"...but the difference is that this form of "work" would most likely be free. The four hour work week would not consider this to be work, because it does not generate cashflow.

Money can be such a hindrance to progression. The four hour work is there to help you solve the money generation issue, so you can concentrate on your progression.

Am I just lucky or what? I love what I do. The idea of setting up businesses sound great to me not because I want to take vacations from them, but because I want to do what I love to do. Right now, I have a job that I love, so I'm not in such a hurry to set up shop. Talk about a great life. It isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but love makes up for everything.

I somehow pity Tim Ferris. Did he really ever find what he'd love to do? In the meantime, I'm here enjoying myself despite my regular salary.

I think your article has some valid points, but for me, I much prefer the 4hww lifestyle.

While a lot of people seem to agree with you about the whole if you love the work you do, then it is not work, I have to disagree. I remember a quote from the Movie, Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist, where Nick and Norah are in her dad's recording studio:

Nick: Is this the job that you have lined up?

Norah: It's mine if I want it, yeah.

Nick: Well, how could you not want this?

Norah: I don't know, I love music, you know what I mean? But I feel like if I work in it in here... I might not love it the same way anymore.

That's how I feel about a lot of the things I "love". Work is work no matter if I love it or not and personally I don't really want to work.

I have been fortunate this last year to have a job cocktailing at a bar on weekends, while a lot of people think this is a pretty low job, I think I make more those weekends than someone who works 40 hours a week making $10 an hour. Is everyone making $1O an hour? No but the point I'm trying to make is that with only 12 hours a week, I was making more than I would working behind a desk for 40 hours entry level.

So your probably wondering, okay is that all you did? Heck yeah. From Sun-Thurs I would wake up at noon, eat whatever, work out sometimes, veg out in the front of the tv, surf the net and post of forums and just generally do nothing. Of course I had household chores I needed to do, but thats about it.

One thing that I have to point out is that my "lifestyle" was very appauling to my boyfriend I live with. He lives the whole 8-5 weekends off and really despises that I don't do anything. I have tried to bring up the whole it doesn't have to be this way thing, trying to make him read the 4hww but he doesn't care. He thinks I am really lazy.

Rewind a year back and I was working 8-5 plus OT at a corporate job I absolutley hated. Every day I would day dream at my desk, thinking what could I be doing now? How would I enjoy my free time right now if I didn't have to work? I really contemplated jumping from the 2nd story window, thats how depressed I was. And I don't think it was exactly WHAT I was doing, it was more like how much TIME I was giving away to this business.

I of course thought that it was WHAT I was doing, so I started modeling a little. I had to do an event with a lot of other models and we had to be at the event for 8 hours. At first, I was like yay this is fun. Getting my hair done, makeup done, walking around taking pictures. This is the life. Yeah right. About 4 hours into it, I was over it. This job was EASY, smile and wave take pictures, shmooze and look good. Although I was having fun, in the back of my mind I kept thinking, I could be in my P'Js curled up with some popcorn watching a good movie. How pathetic is that?

I think that it has a lot to do with just being told what to do and not having the freedom to do what you want. It sounds ridiculous but even at that modeling job, there were rules, be here by 6, no gum chewing, you leave here 8 hours later, blah blah blah. What I am trying to say here, is I just couldn't show up at anytime I wanted, work as much as I wanted and do what I wanted, it was work because it was designed as a job. Yeah its a fun job, but its a job. You still have rules to follow and people to answer to. As I am writing this, I am just realizing that maybe I need to be my own boss somehow...but I would still have to work hard and commit a ton of my time to things I still don't want to do!

Now the above example is very different compared to say trying to make a difference in the world, whether its for a good cause, working to help the homeless, working at an animal shelter, visiting a nursing home etc. I have had the opportunity to volunteer and to work for organizations like that. Same thing. No matter what I love, no matter how much fun it is. It's still work to me and I can't wait to get home so I can live by the rules I set.

So yes, with the 4hww, all I am wanting to have is free time. Free time to do whatever I want because I have the freedom to do so. I don't think it is boring at all. I have been working at my cocktailing job for a whole year, with those exact same hours and couldn't be happier. Unfortunately, I recently lost it so of course deciding to try and do the whole office thing again. I recently went on an interview for a 9-5 so it is equal to my boyfriends schedule and I freaked out. Freaked out because I have to spend 8 hours every day at a place I don't want to be with people I don't want to be around. I am sooo used to sleeping in really late, eating, surfing the net, watching tv and now having a new pet, playing with it. All of that flashed before my eyes realizing that my "lazy" lifestyle is going to dissapear. Which of course is not what I want. And if there was someway to gain a good income hardly working, I will do it. I simply cannot stand working and will work the minimum to avoid it.

A lot of you are probably thinking I don't know the meaning of good hard work. Yes I do, as previously referenced above, I worked at a hell office job. But years before that while a senior in High school, I worked 2 jobs juggled 6 classes and was starring in the school play, all because I wanted to be "busy" and the car I had purchased my senior year had to be paid off. I know what it's like to work hard and I value my experience in the work force, but I think I am burnt out.

And also, to touch on "meaningful work" I know there are lots of people who couldn't care less about a fufilling job that is meaningful and helps others. Why? Because I read the book: Get Motivated!: Overcome Any Obstacle, Achieve Any Goal, and Accelerate Your Success with Motivational DNA by Tamara Lowe. This book based on a study that involved thousands of people, indicated what kind of person you are, and what motivates you. Sounds like nonsense but I really tried hard to overcome the "laziness" that I supposedly have.

What really interested me was the author wrote that there are two types of people regarding internal awards and external awards. Internal people are the ones who are compassionate, who want to make a difference in the world. Most of these jobs are social workers, doctors, nurses, non profit sectors and many others. The other type is the External, these people want to be rewarded in tangible material ways, expects to work hard to achieve their compensation. Example jobs are investors, bankers, CEO's etc. I really doubt that external people really want to make a difference in the world, there are so many people who just care about a paycheck.

One of my best friends just got recruited, (yes I say that because it sounds like they brainwashed her) becoming employed with one of the biggest financial services/investing firms in the country. They are on the fortune 100 best jobs to work for. I really pity her because of the grueling labor she has to endure for the next couple of years to really start making income. Going door to door and cold calling, bleh not for me. But the only thing she has in her mind are dollar signs and she keeps telling me that 3 or 4 years down the road, she is going to be making a 6 figure salary guarenteed. Good for her. She is a great example of someone who only wants to work for monetary gain vs. working somewhere that could make a positive impact in the world today.

So if sipping martini's on a beach is what I want to do forever than so be it. Right now the lifestyle I have had for a year hasn't bored me yet and I doubt it will bore me down the road. Hopefully if I apply the 4hww I will have a chance at this permanent lifestyle.

Hello Friend,

After Reading your comments......I mostly agree with you .....There is a lot of hype these days with these kind of books......

Yes life is meaningful only when we pursue our purpose .......here is where I slightly disagree with you ....because there are many whose only purpose is money, enjoyment and nothing else ....for them I think these kind of suggestions are valid ....

Sometimes in our jobs we don't have sufficient freedom ....like taking a week off sometimes ....somewhere employers need to understand this other wise world will become weird with this kind of stupid suggestions coming up ....

No offense friend wrote what i felt.

The protestant work ethic seem so profoundly engraved in people's minds that they would find any reason in the world to convince themselves it is the right attitude in life.

Work as per Tim Ferris' 4HWW definition is something that you do to sustain financially your dreams (whatever they are). Whether your dreams are to sip martinis on a beach all day long or to make a difference in the world (whatever you mean by that), the work should serve strictly that dream. It is your choice.

The final test for deciding what is work and what is not is the following: if you would do the same thing without any pay of material benefit it is not work it is a hobby/passion, otherwise it is surely work regardless the pleasure and enjoyment you derive from it. Just take the money out and see what remains from what you love doing, and that whould clearly whow you what is work in your life and what is not.

The 4HWW of Tim Ferris is actually about creating a different lifestyle and about seeing the opportunities life offers you.

The 4HWW as per work defined as above is an attainable and honourable aim. Nothing keeps you doing a difference in the world once you have the means and time to do it without any material motivation and this is the point most 4HWW critics miss.

If you attained a 4-hour workweek and got bored to death this is not proof that a 4-hour workweek is not a good thing, it is just proof that you've been unable to "fill the void" as Tim Ferriss warned us in his book.

A 4HWW approach to life is useles and boring without "filling the void".

I must admit that I read this article because the title got me riled up. The 4HWW has been more impactful for my life than any other book I've come across. It's gotten me to quit my job to do something more fulfilling (personal development blogging, coaching and running an investment partnership), I've outsourced a ton of stuff, 80/20ed my life and begun to value my time on this earth and the value I add to society in a much bigger way.

But one thing it did not teach me is how to have a 4 hour work week. Semantics indeed. Tim spends a ton of time doing things that make him money. But he loves them so they are not work for him. Keep in mind he chose that title because it got the most clicks in his google tests. I think he really meant the 0 Hour Work Week as well. I'm about to dive into your ebook by the way.

I love your spin on this. The most important takeaway is to be doing what you love and what fulfills you. Then the workweek disappears.

Well done,
Scott

Kudos Jonathan for the straight talk! Like Penelope (although much less intensely) I disliked The 4 Hour Work Week; thought there was something left unsaid and I did feel kind of slimed by the end of the book.

I much prefer your take on it, that work is sacred. This reminds of how Seth Godin talks about "giving away your gifts" in Linchpin.

thanks for having the balls to write such a great post!

4 Hour work is just guidelines we modified a little bit. Book actually Inspired us to take a 3 year trip around the world with our portable business. We are Currently on month 18. Come Follow Journey WE ARE LIVING THE 4 HOUR WORK WEEK.

Rhonda Swan
Unstoppable Family

I couldn't agree with you more. When you love what you do it's not work. Enough said.

Agree with Anders. You've made an entire blog post based on a willful misinterpretation of the title of the book without looking at the underlying message. This is all the more disappointing as I hoped there might be some substance to this critique but all I see are semantics.

4HWW is not about working 4 hours a week or about the fact that work is inherent negative, it's about having freedom of choice to do the things you want to do by being proactive and disciplined in your approach to getting there.

Total distortion of Tim's meaning. He is very clear that one should not become a vegetable, but should engage in interesting, challenging, fulfilling projects. Furthermore, simply redefining work as a "mutually beneficial exchange" does not make it so. If you've ever worked in an office and had to perform repetitive, mind-numbing and soul-killing chores, you would know exactly what Tim is talking about. I think you're just jealous of his success.

Liked this article a hell of a lot more than that negative, hateful, passive aggressive drek from that woman you linked to.

I'll be reading your eBook in the next 3 days as well.

The thing that bugged me about 4HWW was that he didn't start from 4hr workweek to make his money. He happened to get into vitamin supplements at the beginning of the craze, and is now rich, and he can now do whatever the hell he wants within his 4 hour workweek.
That said, I did agree with some of the info about not being a slave to your email, etc.

Hi Jonathan,

I spoke to Timothy about this, and also about your eBook. It was nice to hear his response and I think we are actually all very much share the same ideas here. Tim is just helping people to avoid having work for work's sake, for pure financial purposes. To free yourself in order to do the things you want, which can be Your Work as well.
I found that an interesting insight to better understand and appreciate his book (and other things he does)

Listen to the full audio file of the interview here: http://twurl.nl/d6gfax

Hi, I think most of you take 4HWW much too litterally.

Book is not about hating jobs, it's about doing things you love. It could also be working! Yes it's provocative, but that's just to make a point to stop for a while and think why you are doing the things you are. Many seems to be stucked with the book title and don't understand it. The book covers ideas how test and build you thing, including marketing. The title of the book is exactly that, it's couple of words that sells the idea, not the message itself. The message is in the book if you care to read it. I didn't buy everything in the book, but I started to think little bit more out-of-the-box and that's fine result from one book.

For me the main point in the book was to beginning to think about value creation which is not directly connected to spending your time. Tradiotional working usually links those things together.

BTW this blog is exactly Tim's idea in use. So while we are writing, we are taking part of blog owners "muse" :)

The idea that your life will be all roses and light if you get rid of your job is of course inane.

Is that really what Tim was saying..? I don't think so. Get off your high horse already.

If you happen to free yourself from a job that you can't stand, barely covers your rent, leaves you scared to even get sick because you have no health insurance....this can only be BLISS in my book!

You can still be productive doing something other than holding a job you hate, living like a sheep and call yourself noble.

I did it- got myself free and make my living online. Did it solve all of my problems..? Of course not. I never expected it to.

I can tell you one thing though....I'll never clean another bathroom where supposedly intelligent, successful people smear crap on the wall.

Now that's noble.

I think that Tim's book is a good idea. I think after reading it he is very astute in pulling lots of ideas together and sometimes there is a slight feeling of cut and paste. For me I have worked as a systems analyst so understand the process mentality. This is something I have noted to be part of NLP but essentially both are about redefining a problem. My own personal view is that all of the time I work for someone else I stop earning when I am not working. If I can either automate my business or work with other people to make use of the automation I provide then I am earning even when I am not working. My idea is simple. Create a store on Ebay and sell items, automate the processes for managing stock based on previous sales figures and % markup. Repeat this 5 times using the same process. So far I have one site up and running and I am just to complete the automation. I am very happy with this.

It might be more than 4 hours but I can grow the business when I am not working for other people so make good use of this down time.

On the concept of work and the above exposition of why Mr Ferris is wrong I would say that his view matches the classical view of work streatching back into Roman times. 1 - Work is essentially tedious 2 - Other tasks requiring effort arent work, including charity working and I would contend all of the work I am doing in automating my business. I just love it, it fascinates me and ultimately it will mean that I can go for a swim instead of working.

So I dont think it is a lie and as a body of work it is robust enough for me to recommend to other people who might do their own thing and therefore come away with different thoughts.

I really like it when people define their terms upfront. But when people start throwing accusations around about definitions and perspectives.... It's childish. Furthermore, I am sure you picked the title of this post for much the same reasons that Tim picked his title for. In short, you are being a hypocrite. So much simpler to write about the how your perspective changes when you define this differently.

I really enjoyed reading this and I think you have a lot of insightful commentary... with that said, I think you should also consider what the average person does for 'work' and what their options are. I can't really imagine Susie in HR finding the statements: 'Work is giving yourself. It’s creative self-expression. It’s opening your heart and providing value to others.' to really apply to her. I personally really enjoy my job and can relate to a lot of the comments you make, however if you showed me a way to do my job more efficiently and spend more time on the golf course or traveling or spending time with loved ones - i'm almost 100% certain i'd take you up on it. Stop romanticizing the working world - its a grind for the majority of people in it - we're not all artists that can 'give ourselves and self express and give our hearts to our jobs...' just not practical.

This does not make sense.

Tim defines work as "stuff that you don't want to do, (but you do it anyway to make money)"
According to you (and I agree), most people define work as "[akin to] slavery, toiling and punishment. Work is seen as something you have to do to pay your dues"

So, what you're saying here is: Most people agree with Tim's definition of work.

Then you state that Tim's definition is too narrow.
But most people agree with Tim.
Words are typically defined by what most people think. ("duck" only means "duck" because people believe that that's what it means)
Thus, it's not that Tim's definition is too narrow, but rather that your definition is too broad!

Where you say "work", most of us would say "activity"

So when Tim says we've got to do less work, you interpret this to mean that we should do less activity, i.e. have boring lives. This leads you to write: "Sure, you’d have a lot of free time, but is that really what you’re looking for? Just free time?"

Of course not! Ferris devotes a whole chapter to the pursuit of meaningful activities once work (what you would call "chores") has been minimized. That chapter is called "Filling the Void". Here's a quote: "Isn't more time what we're after? Isn't that what this book is all about? No, not at all. [...] For some, the answer will be working with orphans, and for others, it will be composing music. I have a personal answer to both - to love, be loved, and never stop learning."

It seems to me that you and Tim agree on almost everything! The only thing you disagree on is the definition of "work". And for that you call him a liar.

It just doesn't make sense.

I found this article funny; was the author a liberal?

It seems that to make his point he has to redifine everything. I guess he thinks it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

Hi, I love your perspective on the book and Ferris's ideas.

I'm reading the book now and have loved it so far. I don't think we need to take the idea of a 4 hour workweek as literal, a 14 hour workweek might be more realistic, or even a 24 hour workweek. Some people who have built wealth in their lifetimes have 1hr work weeks.

What I found as I started reading the book is that Ferris is like most of us, he looks to get more done and wants to enjoy life as well, in an over extreme way. I personally don't care about sports that much or all that other stuff he talks about in his bio. HOWEVER, I would like to take more time to enjoy myself and vacation in places like Fiji or California, spend more time with friends and family and do other things I've always wanted to do etc etc.

This doesn't mean that we have to view work as something to eliminate. I think I'd want to do what I was doing even if I was FI. I actually have plans for a mini retirement(image that at 19:D), coding open source projects and contributing my skills for nothing in return(both as servitude and because I love doing it). I could do this at home, at an office or laying on the beach with a cigar and a laptop.

I AGREE with you that work is sacred, but there are different definitions of work as well: no one says it has to be 4hrs and no one says it has to be 40hrs a week. Some work takes longer than other work. Some people's work is building their wealth, other people's "work" is ruthless discipline for a shot at the Olympics. I might agree with you more than I agree with Tim's view on work. I like his no bs view: "don't focus on the minutia" but most people would be bored out of their skulls with Tim's life, basically because most people haven't got a clue what to do when they don't have work. And that can be OK, but not when there's other things in life out there that should be enjoyed.

Overall if you take bits and peaces out of this book and apply it to your own work/career life you can benefit. You don't need to live his life but I believe something valuable can be taken from this book. Somehow it's almost like E-myth. The only thing I get confused on is this concept of working only 4hrs a week, up front he presents it as a novel idea, once you're in the book you realize this is nothing new, people have been finding ways to leverage their time and resources for years and years. And the fact that he used the Internet doesn't make it any newer an idea, it's just another way to make money. Just as realistic as, 100 years ago, creating a car company and selling model T's or starting a bank.

It all depends on where you want to go, what you're working for, and what else life has to offer you/what else you want to experience.

Enjoyed reading your article:)

Cheers, and Happy New Year!
Clinton Skakun

This post is mindless and vague considering how abstractly the blogger claims how "work" is so valuable with not one real life example or anecdote. Ferris provided plenty of examples of eliminating time at work (which he defines as time used to generate income) so one could pursue their passion or travel the world. Please inform me how that statement is "wrong" as dictated by the title of this post? One more question: what is the bloggers mode of generating income? Does the author desire more income? Probably. And Ferris' tried and true ideas could help that

Your two points for why the 4HWW are a lie are YOUR opinions/perspectives. Your presentation of work as sacred has precisely the same tact as Ferris's arguments; you're shaping the perspectives of your readers.

Work is no more sacred than it is a chore; it's opinion akin to "one man's trash is another man's treasure."

I can respect your opinion; it's what YOU think of the 4HWW. Try to be a little more mindful, however, that what may not work for you won't work for someone else.

Your opinion does not prove something to be a lie.

I read the book a short while ago and really enjoyed it. Mr Ferriss has an enthusiastic and contagious writing style and he gives some good advice on how to implement the concepts outlined in his book.

However, none of the ideas are new and some of his assertions are plain wrong, for example, to suggest that the 80/20 principle has been forgotten is just plain silly.

In spite of all of this and without the desire to leave my current job (or work only 4 hours a week) I am in the process of trying to implement the techniques described.

I can tell you that it isn't easy, in large part because old habits are hard to break.My idea is simply to gain a little extra income every month and not to become a millionaire so I'm not aiming for a mega-business but it's still tough going..

The real challenge isn't breaking old habits though. Instead it is developing the business idea into a viable business. Mr Ferriss advocates an informational business rather than products but that basically means writing a book - not a simple task.

I'm still battling through it though because I reckon that I can achieve a small passive income by implementing the ideas. So, it won't be a 4 hour work week for me but perhaps I'll be able to take the family away from the city a few more times a year.

Opinions can be swayed but verifiable facts cannot be disputed. Has anyone here applied Tim's principles successfully? Has anyone even tried? If so, please sound off. Debate can go on forever, but seeing (even if just once) is believing.

I think the way you said some things may be the reason some people took this post offensively or the wrong way. Especially having "lie" in the title. But that's your choice of course.

I think I understand what you are saying though, and I agree on both your side and Tims. I think what you are talking about is work as a passion, if you are doing your passion and working at it and getting paid for it, then work is not dreadful. Yes. But, for me being a artist, having a passive income wouldn't create the time to go lie on a beach and drink margarita's, it would create the time and offer me the creative freedom to do what I love, which is create, learn and study art. By working 9 - 5, its almost impossible, besides nit picking at my passion. Some people though may be looking for freedom to be lazy.

I would say, have a passion, create passive income or some sort of continuous income so you can focus on the work you love to do, with out worrying about the stress and going to your 9 - 5 job.

Or, Take action, work your ass off at your passion while you are working 9 - 5, then take action and start your own business related to the work you love.

Maybe the book opened up people minds, the lives of the ones who do not have dreams, but have now created them.

The problem is Tim is a liar. he hasn't done half of the things he claims in the book. Anyway he is a great marketer and there are plenty of stupid people out there who believe him - so why not?

and for the people that are trying to get to a 4 hour work week - Tim is gone for a long time. With the money he made he has invested in start up companies, and now he hangs out with some of the popular leaders of the silicon valley. This is the way he gets around: going after leaders, use them, and then dump them.

This was written by a liberal I am guessing.

"....Work is giving yourself. It’s creative self-expression. It’s opening your heart and providing value to others. It’s exchanging a part of yourself with someone else. It’s a possibility for you to make a difference in the world..."

Really? In his discription of "sacred work", he never mentions earning money at all"

The 4 Hour Work week completely opened my mind up to a new way of thinking about life and work. I think the book is really, really good. I think people get hung up on some of the specific things he says rather than the spirit of the book. The book is written from the perspective of a physical young man and some of the things he's into aren't the same things I am because I'm a 40 something woman. I still saw the spirit of what he was talking about and looked to ways I could break out of my own limiting thinking. Also, being an artist, he opened up a world of thinking about money that had eluded me.

Frankly, after spending the past year studying Internet marketing, I'm finding I want to go back and read the 4 hour work week again.

This is my first visit to your blog and you seem like an intelligent, searching person so I don't want to criticize you, but I wonder if using the provocative title wasn't a little unfair to Tim Ferris? He certainly doesn't advocate that you spend the rest of your week smearing cocoanut butter on your stomach, but that you are freed up to do the things you are passionate about.

I disagree with you, and most of the comments people have made.

Firstly I'm not sure you have read all of the book. Tim talks about doing something you are passionate about, or that is your purpose. Stopping doing something that is inline with your core is not the purpose of the book.

But in saying that I'd say less than 1% are truly in their ideal career that is the perfect representation of their personality type, their strengths, their purpose and their passion. The book is for the 99% of the population.

But I understand that everybody is different.

I'm a real outdoor adventure type. I love dangerous stuff, challenges, and being in the world around me. I'm also training in dance to win competitions, I've been dancing for 12 years, and really am passionate about it.

Creating a passive income, outsourcing, and doing pretty much exactly everything in the book is perfectly ideal for me. The problem with most people is that they have no idea what to replace work with. They are so conditioned to work all the time, and are so out of touch with themselves, that they need work to be even slightly fulfilled and occupied.

Its one of the best books ever written in my opinion. The thing though is that it won't work if everybody does it, it takes an ability to implement, and its not easy setting up your passion income. Thats a side point though because the best thing about the book is that it gives you a much better end goal than just working more.

The book is misleading, using The 4 Hour Work Week, but the points that are not:
1. Get off your XXXX and do what you want or have a passion or dream. Action.
2. If anything change your thought process, look at things from a different angle.
3. In today's economy, how can you open a business and be cost effective by not outsourcing.
4. Becuase of the economy, more new businesses will be started over the next twenty years by those who no longer believe working for someone else is the answer.
Forget the 4 hour work week, think of it as anyother self help book. Did it cause you to think, but more important, did it inspire you to do something. If you did do something, the books value is twenty fold.

Your post is valid however I believe Tim's book is targeted towards the majority of people who don't view work with your definition. Most people don't like their job, and some do dream of travelling to distant lands. A lot of people haven't discovered their passion or purpose yet know grinding away 40 hours a week for someone else isn't there thing. I think Tim's book helps these type of people think outside the traditional square which they think they know.

you don't like Tim, so you can't understand his ideal

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